Crown of Creation 1.4 (and other findings)

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Crown of Creation 1.4 (and other findings)

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Hey there,

while spending some time with my Falcon today I gave Crown of Creation another go (after literally decades). And I noticed that I had version 1.4 installed. Which is probably of interest to some, given that only version 1.3 is floating around the net at the moment?

But then I also noticed something curious about the protection. I had a pilot file right after mission 8 and when I continued it, CoC duly asked me for disk 3. But after passing this check, well, that was it. It kept asking for the manual but there were no more disk checks. Even after reset/reload or when playing through the missions with a new pilot.

First I thought it may just be rather random, when CoC checks for the disk and when it doesn't. But then I noticed, that one of the original files (MKN.COC) had an odd new date (odd because my NVRAM/RTC is no longer working and produces fantasy numbers). So I grabbed a backup of the file and copied it in its place. And sure enough CoC asked for the disk again. And once I passed the check, the MKN.COC had a new date and the disk requests were gone.

Now, there may still be more about this. It may yet be a fluke. But it works reliably for me. So I thought I share it for you to try.

The archive contains the modified MKN.COC (after the disk check) and the original MKN.COC (renamed to MKN.COX).

And at the very least some of you can grab the latest 1.4 version (which should be the final release). :)

Cheers,
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P.S.: I also included two old pilot files of mine. One after mission 8 and one after mission 20 (for those who just want to watch the end sequence).
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Thanks


So there was the disk checksum :)
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https://web.archive.org/web/20010306004 ... /E_UPD.HTM mentions 1.4A as the latest. :)

So the archives are a copy of your hard disk folder? (I'm a bit confused why they are split to two :-))
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@marcer: well only if the game indeed "deprotected" itself. Did you try it on your Falcon?

@mikro: Yeah, it's a copy of my hard disk folder. Had to split it in two as the attachment was apparently too big. But the contents of both zips should be in the same folder. :) Can't remember how I got the update. So there is still one more update to go from 1.4 apparently. Or it just displays 1.4 instead of 1.4A?
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Maybe 1.4A fixes the protection code. :lol:
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Hi there,

I installed your files and it still will ask for disk 3 if you use the Level 8 saved game...

Maybe that's because date of Copy is newer than date of "protection File"...

But thanks for 1.4 anyway ;)

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Even changing date didn't help. Will ask for the disk after you select "engage" to start mission8.

To be clear: I used the Archive as you provided, not renamed Cox to coc.
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Ah okay. I already thought that it can't be that simple. :)

It's still interesting how CoC decided to no longer ask for the disk on my system.
Maybe it put a reminder for itself some place else?
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Ok, just checked it again today. No request for a disk.

Could my f*#cked up NVRAM/RTC have anything to do with it?
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No idea... It doesn't ask you for the disk If you start Level 8? That's really strange then... On my Falcon it does... Didn't ask for it when try to start Level 20...
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Nope, it doesn't. Only when I replace MKN.COC with the old unmodified version.

Would be great if someone with a Falcon with empty NVRAM battery could check the archive. :)
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Or something went wrong when I moved the files from the Falcon to my Mac. Will check that when I'm back home.
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nemodhs wrote:Or something went wrong when I moved the files from the Falcon to my Mac. Will check that when I'm back home.
Nope, took the archives I shared and copied the files back to the Falcon and I still don't get a disk request. :shrug:
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maybe it took some HW adresses from just your falcon. which it detects. then works flawless. kind of copylock a la falcon protection?
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Ok, my findings about Crown of Creation :

The game checks during HD installation the disk protection used on disk 3. the protection track is not in HD format, but double density format.
The Installer performs reading on tracks on disk 3 having 14 sectors instead of 12.

Next ingame, once you reach mission 8, the game asks for disk 3, and it makes 6 readings on track 56.0 and if it pass, you're good.
To those who own the game, i have a set of IPF and also a set of HFE files working, that i tested on my Atari Falcon 030.

On gotek, you need FF v3.13a minimum for the protection support.
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We welcome any testers willing to give the images a shakedown on real falcons or hatari. Here’s a link to dlfrsilver’s COC IPF images:

https://we.tl/t-eNBV1kbz6m
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Thank you :)
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I tried the link posted by @broadwing, but it no longer seems to work. Can someone please post a working link to the 1.4 images?
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Still got the game. I can repost it.

Please spread it to other downloads. The link expires in 7 days.

https://we.tl/t-wvG8fe4kFW
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