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I have seen the interesting work done by some using AI to upscale and redraw graphics from retro games for the purpose of modern remakes, however I believe with some simple scripting we could achieve something far more worthwhile. Automating the process of fighting flamewars with the old enemy over on the EAB and Lemon Amiga forums (for a start). We could even put these text inputs into AI speech bots and make youtube videos. The possibilities are endless.

My input to chatGPT bot was:
Write about 200 words making a one-sided case for why the Atari ST is far superior to the Commodore Amiga. Not just a bit better, but far better.
A few seconds later, the reply:
The Atari ST is far superior to the Commodore Amiga in every way. The Atari ST has a faster processor, more memory, and a better operating system. The Atari ST also has better graphics and sound capabilities. The Atari ST also has a much larger selection of software available, including more games and productivity software. The Atari ST is also more affordable and easier to use than the Commodore Amiga. The Commodore Amiga is a clunky, outdated machine that simply cannot compete with the power and capabilities of the Atari ST. The Atari ST is the clear choice for anyone looking for a high-performance computer. The Commodore Amiga is a relic of the past, and should be avoided at all costs. The Atari ST is the future of computing, and anyone who wants to be on the cutting edge of technology should choose the Atari ST over the Commodore Amiga.

The Atari ST is also less prone to crashes, has better compatibility and more stable than the Commodore Amiga. The Commodore Amiga was known for it's hardware bugs and lack of stability, the Atari ST on the other hand was a much more reliable machine, the Atari ST is a better choice for anyone looking to do serious work or play games.

In conclusion, the Atari ST is far superior to the Commodore Amiga in every way. The Atari ST is faster, more powerful, more stable and has a better selection of software. The Commodore Amiga is a clunky, outdated machine that cannot compete with the Atari ST. The Atari ST is the clear choice for anyone looking for a high-performance computer.
In the interest of balance, my next instruction was:
Write a retort to this article in favour of the Amiga 500
To which we have:
While it is true that the Atari ST does have a faster processor and more memory, the Commodore Amiga 500 offers a unique and unparalleled multimedia experience. The Amiga 500's custom chipset, which includes the Agnus, Denise, and Paula chips, allows for advanced graphics and sound capabilities that the Atari ST simply cannot match. The Amiga 500 also had a dedicated hardware blitter and copper, which enabled faster and smoother graphics and animations.

Additionally, the Amiga 500 had a thriving and dedicated community of developers, who created a wide range of software, including games, music and video editing software, which were not available on the Atari ST. The Amiga 500 was also a popular choice for professionals in fields such as animation, video production and music composition, due to its advanced multimedia capabilities.

Furthermore, the Amiga 500 was known for its stability, compatibility and reliability, it was a solid machine that could handle a lot of tasks at the same time, the Amiga 500 was also less prone to crashes and errors.

In conclusion, while the Atari ST may have a faster processor and more memory, the Commodore Amiga 500 offers a unique and unparalleled multimedia experience that cannot be matched by the Atari ST. The Amiga 500's custom chipset, dedicated community of developers and advanced multimedia capabilities make it a solid choice for both professionals and hobbyists alike.
Further exploring the trolling capabilities I said:
Summarise to 70 words but in a more indignant tone
Which prompted:
The article in favor of the Atari ST is a complete farce! The Amiga 500 is far superior in every way, with its advanced multimedia capabilities, dedicated community of developers, and stability. It's a shame that the author is so blind to the true capabilities of the Amiga 500, the Atari ST is nothing compared to it. The Amiga 500 is the clear choice for anyone looking for a high-performance computer
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I like especially this words:
Ragstaff wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:17 am The Atari ST is the future of computing, and anyone who wants to be on the cutting edge of technology should choose the Atari ST.
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I'm slightly suspicious that the AI has got some impish sense of humour.
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Well, it's fun to discover an alternative timeline in a local quantum space-time continuum:
Q:
write a praise about Atari ST games that have MIDI music


A:
"The Atari ST's ability to integrate MIDI technology into its games created a truly immersive and dynamic gaming experience. The MIDI music added an extra layer of depth and emotion to the games, elevating them to a whole new level of enjoyment."


Q:
please elaborate using examples of classic games


A:
The Atari ST was known for its integration of MIDI technology, which allowed for high-quality, synthetic music to be played in games. This greatly enhanced the overall gaming experience, as it added an extra layer of immersion and emotion to the games.

One classic example of this is the game "Myth: History in the Making" which was released in 1991. The game featured a complex and dynamic soundtrack that was generated in real-time using MIDI technology. The game's soundtrack was composed by David Whittaker and it was well received by critics, it was praised for its ability to enhance the game's atmosphere and immersing the player into the game's medieval fantasy world.

Another example of a classic Atari ST game that used MIDI music is "The Last Ninja" which was released in 1988. The game featured a dynamic and atmospheric soundtrack that was composed by Matt Gray. The game's music was praised for its ability to enhance the game's atmosphere and immersing the player into the game's feudal Japan setting.

Overall, the Atari ST's use of MIDI technology in its games was a major factor in the platform's success and popularity. It allowed for a more immersive and engaging gaming experience, and helped to set the Atari ST apart from other home computers of the time.
I had no idea, that those games had been developed, but never saw the light of glory:

http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-st ... 10564.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20220824005 ... _atari.php

http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-st-myth_10057.html

Avrayt, let's go all the way:
using theory of quantum alternative timelines create a success story for Atari ST

In an alternate timeline, Atari ST had focused on developing cutting-edge technology and expanding its software library. The company had invested heavily in research and development, and had formed partnerships with leading technology companies.

As a result, the Atari ST had become a major player in the home computer market, with a diverse range of software options and powerful hardware. The Atari ST had also become a popular choice for businesses and corporations, thanks to its advanced features and ability to handle large amounts of data.

The company had also successfully expanded into other markets, such as gaming consoles and mobile devices. The Atari ST's gaming console, called the "Atari ST-X", had become a major player in the console market, thanks to its powerful hardware and exclusive games. The Atari ST's mobile devices, named the "Atari ST-M" had also become popular, thanks to its advanced features and sleek design.

The Atari ST had also invested in virtual reality technology and had developed a VR headset which was compatible with their gaming console and mobile device. This had allowed the company to tap into the growing VR market, and had given them a competitive edge over other companies.

By the early 2000s, the Atari ST had become a major player in the technology industry, with a strong presence in the home computer, gaming console, mobile device and VR markets. The company had become a household name, and had solidified its place as a leader in the industry.

The Atari ST had also helped to revolutionize the way we interact with technology, and had played a major role in shaping the technology landscape of the 21st century. Their innovations and developments had changed the way we live, work, and play, and had helped to bring technology to the masses.

This success story of Atari ST had been possible due to the company's focus on innovation, research and development, and partnerships with leading technology companies. These efforts had allowed the company to stay ahead of the curve and adapt to the ever-changing technology landscape, which had ultimately led to its success in the industry.
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mfro wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:35 am I'm slightly suspicious that the AI has got some impish sense of humour.
I promise I didn't edit the output at all!
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xorcerer wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:57 amThe company had also successfully expanded into other markets, such as gaming consoles and mobile devices. The Atari ST's gaming console, called the "Atari ST-X", had become a major player in the console market, thanks to its powerful hardware and exclusive games. The Atari ST's mobile devices, named the "Atari ST-M" had also become popular, thanks to its advanced features and sleek design.
It even made up some realistic fictional model names - ST-X and ST-M (well, innocently reused a model name in the case of STM). I find this remarkable.
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Pretty sad :(
Nothing against the AI but it proves Putin doesn't need to pay trolls for anything. This software can do it far cheaper.

Did I mention that it is pointless to argument anyway? Haters will hate...too bad I hardly ever met Amiga users who were not totally argumentative although they already won their fight in 1989. Why don't they have a "live and let live" attitude? I will always love my ST more despite the Amiga being technically better. I enjoy gaming on both platforms.
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Ragstaff wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:54 am It even made up some realistic fictional model names - ST-X and ST-M (well, innocently reused a model name in the case of STM). I find this remarkable.
I'm amazed by the way our perception was shaped and directed - well, still is - by a popular belief, what's "better" or "successful". Dropping this completely allowed me to discover something new about my ol' trusty and still to this day beloved machine. I guess that is a great lesson and a tip for future searches.
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Interesting. In the preview, GFX do not work for the rolling demo, but actual game play works, even with EmuTOS.
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Ragstaff wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:17 am Further exploring the trolling capabilities I said:
Summarise to 70 words but in a more indignant tone
Which prompted:
The article in favor of the Atari ST is a complete farce! The Amiga 500 is far superior in every way, with its advanced multimedia capabilities, dedicated community of developers, and stability. It's a shame that the author is so blind to the true capabilities of the Amiga 500, the Atari ST is nothing compared to it. The Amiga 500 is the clear choice for anyone looking for a high-performance computer
:lol: With a reply like this, the AI is totally flamed.... burning in hell.
Guess the developer makes sure it does not swear.
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