FORTH on the ST(E)?

[robdaemon]

For those FORTHers out there -

What implementations did you use on the ST?

I've been experimenting with them, some more successfully than others. I'm wanting to do some simple games (a card game, mainly)

* Hisoft Forth - works fine on ST video modes, does not work with Nova or TT/Falcon modes
* Forthmacs - entirely text-based, which is fine, but I would like some GEM goodness
* BigForth - GEM friendly, but my German is not very good.

Mainly using FORTH because I find it fun, and I really don't like writing C code.

[simonsunnyboy]

I never used FORTH personally but there was an implementation in the German Public Domain which was actually used to release games with.
It can be found in the earlier numbers of the ST Computer collection. IIRC it was pretty bare TOS style but there was support for VDi and co.

[krupkaj]

VolksFORTH is also available for Atari ST
http://volksforth.sourceforge.net/

[AnachronyX]

There is Forth for Atari STE too: https://gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/downld_e.htm (a download link is near the bottom of the page).

[charles]

If u choose to code other than c
Always asm gfa or pascal too

Im interested in forth and fortran
But have limited resource to such programs

Thanks for initiating this thread

[Moulinaie]

There is Forth for Atari STE too: https://gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/downld_e.htm (a download link is near the bottom of the page).

This FORTH version is able to work with NOVA without any problem.
It includes a "immediate" mode, an editor and a ram-compiler.

If you want to create a standalone program, you can do it with COMPSTE.PRG that comes in the same archive as FORTHSTE.PRG.

This Forth can call the TOS, AES, VDI as any other program.
You can include assembly (if you have an external assembler).

Guillaume.

[robdaemon]

This FORTH version is able to work with NOVA without any problem.
It includes a "immediate" mode, an editor and a ram-compiler.

If you want to create a standalone program, you can do it with COMPSTE.PRG that comes in the same archive as FORTHSTE.PRG.

This Forth can call the TOS, AES, VDI as any other program.
You can include assembly (if you have an external assembler).

This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you!

[robdaemon]

This FORTH version is able to work with NOVA without any problem.
It includes a "immediate" mode, an editor and a ram-compiler.

If you want to create a standalone program, you can do it with COMPSTE.PRG that comes in the same archive as FORTHSTE.PRG.

This Forth can call the TOS, AES, VDI as any other program.
You can include assembly (if you have an external assembler).

Guillaume - which assembler did you use for this? I'd like to translate the messages in it into English, if you don't mind?

[Moulinaie]

This FORTH version is able to work with NOVA without any problem.
It includes a "immediate" mode, an editor and a ram-compiler.

If you want to create a standalone program, you can do it with COMPSTE.PRG that comes in the same archive as FORTHSTE.PRG.

This Forth can call the TOS, AES, VDI as any other program.
You can include assembly (if you have an external assembler).

Guillaume - which assembler did you use for this? I'd like to translate the messages in it into English, if you don't mind?

I use ASSEMBLE (brainstorm).
Are there so many messages ??

Guillaume.

[robdaemon]

I use ASSEMBLE (brainstorm).
Are there so many messages ??

No, that's not it at all - it was more of a means of contributing back a bit. The assembler code is really easy to follow.

[Moulinaie]

I use ASSEMBLE (brainstorm).
Are there so many messages ??

No, that's not it at all - it was more of a means of contributing back a bit. The assembler code is really easy to follow.

Oh, thanks!
I can add your english version.

The hard work would be to translate the whole documentation...

Guillaume.

[AnachronyX]

The hard work would be to translate the whole documentation...

With help of some online services it could be done relatively fast.

[robdaemon]

With help of some online services it could be done relatively fast.

Yep! I've ran the docs through Google Translate so far, and it's been helpful.

THANK YOU for distributing them as text files, Guillame!!!

[AnachronyX]

This service maybe will give you a better results: https://www.deepl.com/translator

My quick & dirty attempt.

[Moulinaie]

This service maybe will give you a better results: https://www.deepl.com/translator

My quick & dirty attempt.

Sure, that's really a good translation!

I updated yesterday the FORTH binairies, there was a bug in the FORTH.LIB file so most programs wouldn't run at start..!!!

Guillaume.

[Moulinaie]

With help of some online services it could be done relatively fast.

Yep! I've ran the docs through Google Translate so far, and it's been helpful.

THANK YOU for distributing them as text files, Guillame!!!

I thought that could be useful. We are not all WORKS users!
But the french accents are still here and you have to convert them to the PC ASCII standard.

Guillaume.

[AnachronyX]

But the french accents are still here and you have to convert them to the PC ASCII standard.

It's CP850 (as I found).

[Desty]

I'm having trouble getting things to work with COMPSTE.PRG -- I tried compiling a couple of the examples, including FACT.FOR and W_DIAL.FOR, and they produce .PRG files, but they immediately crash with either 2 or 3 bombs on Hatari (emulating an STE with 4MB RAM). Is there a configuration step needed?

[edit]
WINDOW.FOR seems to compile and run fine... I wonder why the others aren't happy.

[viking272]

I use ASSEMBLE (brainstorm).
Are there so many messages ??

No, that's not it at all - it was more of a means of contributing back a bit. The assembler code is really easy to follow.

Oh, thanks!
I can add your english version.

The hard work would be to translate the whole documentation...

Guillaume.

Well the English version of the documentation is (mostly) done now. Head over to Guillaume's pages to download a copy of Atari FORTH:
https://gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/forth_e.htm

More info on Guillaume's FORTH on these pages too:
https://atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=41563

Just out of interest does anyone have a copy of Hisoft Forth?
Atari Mania is without a copy too:
http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari ... 32634.html